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lefty2g comments on Massachusetts Medical Spa Task Force Reportsquarespace:comment:182618-3298543-16907643lefty2g2012-02-14T05:03:31Z2012-02-14T05:03:31Z2012-02-14T05:03:31ZYou are right about eye shields, however, that is in your office . I alluded to the "over the counter lasers" now available. (I SPECIFICALLY ASKED ABOUT PEOPLE USING THEM WHO ARE ILITTERATE, POOR READING COMPREHENSION, OR DO NOT KNOW THE LANGUAGE AND MINORS) wrote FDA to inquire about the differences , if any, between an OTC laser and a professional one. THEY DID NOT ANSWER. I USED THEIR FORMS TO INQUIRE.
IF the OTC LASERS ARE THAT GOOD YOU COULD BUY ONE FOR $800 AND SAVE A LOT OF MONEY.

DID YOU SEE THE NEWS (IN NY TIMES) ABOUT "WHISTLE BLOWERS" IN FDA REGARDING BEING ORDERED TO APPROVE CERTAIN DEVICES THAT HAD BEEN TURNED DOWN FOR APPROVAL. A number of heads rolled. THERE WILL BE LAW SUITS AND BIG PAY OFFS TO THOSE WHO WERE FIRED FOR BLOWING THE WHISTLE. THE HEADS ABOVE THEM WERE FIRED FOR ILLEGAL ACTIVITY.

Some years ago the Massachusetts Board of Electrology included of a person who owned a school of electrology. SHE WAS ASKED TO RESIGN BECAUSE IT WAS A CONFLICT OF INTEREST TO MAKE LAWS FOR A BUSINESS SHE OPERATED. The same holds true here as Ms. Hinds owns a school that she is making regulations for. That is a DIRECT CONFLICT OF INTERESTS. She can be a consultant but NOT A MEMBER OF THE BOARD. The people making laws and regulations here are NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE LAW OR LAW MAKING PROCESS. THEY ARE STARTING OFF WITH MANY WHO DO NOT KNOW WHAT GOES ON IN A SPA. THEY DO NOT KNOW WHAT CONSTITUTES SURGERY JUST AS YOU DO NOT. By the way, side effects of BURNS ARE NOT INTENTIONAL BUT THEY DO HAPPEN. ZEBRA STRIPES ARE VISIBLE SIDE EFFECTS THAT ALTER PIGMENTATION OF THE SKIN. THAT IS NOT THE INTENT OF LASER SURGERY BUT IT HAPPENS AND THE MELANIN PRODUCING CELLS ARE WELL BELOW THE SURFACE., THEREFORE, YOU HAVE MORE VISIBLE PROOF THAT TISSUE IS BEING ALTERED AND IN MANY CASES THIS IS PERMANENT.There is no point in having laser treatments if the result is not permanent, yet, FDA will NOT allow you to advertise "permanent" hair removal after over 15 years of laser experience.

I believe, AT ONE TIME, a member of the cosmology board in Massachusetts also owned a school. She assisted in adding to the laws for cosmeticians that AFTER GETTING A LICENSE they had to WORK AS AN APPRENTICE for an UNREASONABLE length of time before they could be a full fledged cosmetician to open their own shop. THIS GUARANTEED that the new graduates of the school she owned could not open a spa in competition with her. Also provided a CONSTANT FLOW OF WORKERS in the multiple spas she owned. AND HELPED DELAY COMPETITION. THAT IS ANOTHER CONFLICT OF INTEREST. YOU CANNOT ALLOW PEOPLE WHO BENEFIT FROM THE LAWS THEY MAKE TO BE ON THE BOARD THAT MAKES THE LAWS. That is too obvious. USUALLY A LOBBYIST IS PAID TO DO THAT AND THEY PAY LEGISLATORS FOR THEIR SUPPORT (LOOPHOLE). I'LL GET THE EXACT INFORMATION FROM A PERSON WHO WAS DIRECTLY AFFECTED BY THAT RULE. This problem was remedied.

I am not sure if your explanation of employees being covered by a doctor's insurance is correct. However, many spas and salons, and electrology offices do NOT have a medical director. I m retired now but will contact my former insurance agent for the current story in Massachusetts as they insured electrologists and spas all over the country in all states. When I worked in a derms office for 10 years, I had my own insurance. My daughter is an O.R. NURSE IN A MAJOR BOSTON HOSPITAL. She has her own insurance even though the hospital has some insurance for her,and she is ALWAYS working under a doc as it is in the O.R.

PS: YOU USE LSER "TREATMENTS" TO AVOID THE USE OF THE WORD "SURGERY" BUT IT STILL IS LASER SURGERY. The procedures you do were worked out by docs as it IS SURGERY but they can't be bothered with it as it does not produce the stream of income they like to see OR THERE WOULD BE MORE OF THEM.

The FAMOUS MASSACHUSETTS GENERAL HOSPITAL GAVE UP ALL LASER HAIR REMOVAL AS WELL AS OTHER PROCEDURES AND NOBODY EXCEPT BOARD CERTIFIED PLASTIC SURGEONS, DERMATO-SURGEONS, AND OTHER SURGICAL SPECIALTIES ARE ALLOWED TO USE THEM. NO RNs, NPs PAs, ARE ALLOWED TO USE A LASER IN THIS ETHICAL HOSPITAL RESIDENTS CAN USE THEM UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF A BOARD CERTIFIED SURGEON ONLY..YOU STILL INSIST THEY ARE NON-INVASIVE BUT YOU ARE WRONG...IF YOU DO A NON-ABLATIVE PROCEDURE THE POTENTIAL SIDE EFFECTS SHOW THAT SOMETHING IS GOING ON BELOW THE SURFACE EVEN F YOU DO NOT WANT THEM.. ( Cosmetic surgery is done to improve the appearance of an otherwise normal structure.)

]]>lefty2g comments on Massachusetts Medical Spa Task Force Reportsquarespace:comment:182618-3298543-16907600lefty2g2012-02-14T04:52:37Z2012-02-14T04:52:37Z2012-02-14T04:52:37ZYou are right about eye shields, however, that is in your office . I alluded to the "over the counter lasers" now available. (I SPECIFICALLY ASKED ABOUT PEOPLE USING THEM WHO ARE ILITTERATE, POOR READING COMPREHENSION, OR DO NOT KNOW THE LANGUAGE AND MINORS) wrote FDA to inquire about the differences , if any, between an OTC laser and a professional one. THEY DID NOT ANSWER. I USED THEIR FORMS TO INQUIRE.
IF the OTC LASERS ARE THAT GOOD YOU COULD BUY ONE FOR $800 AND SAVE A LOT OF MONEY.

DID YOU SEE THE NEWS (IN NY TIMES) ABOUT "WHISTLE BLOWERS" IN FDA REGARDING BEING ORDERED TO APPROVE CERTAIN DEVICES THAT HAD BEEN TURNED DOWN FOR APPROVAL. A number of heads rolled. THERE WILL BE LAW SUITS AND BIG PAY OFFS TO THOSE WHO WERE FIRED FOR BLOWING THE WHISTLE. THE HEADS ABOVE THEM WERE FIRED FOR ILLEGAL ACTIVITY.

Some years ago the Massachusetts Board of Electrology included of a person who owned a school of electrology. SHE WAS ASKED TO RESIGN BECAUSE IT WAS A CONFLICT OF INTEREST TO MAKE LAWS FOR A BUSINESS SHE OPERATED. The same holds true here as Ms. Hinds owns a school that she is making regulations for. That is a DIRECT CONFLICT OF INTERESTS. She can be a consultant but NOT A MEMBER OF THE BOARD. The people making laws and regulations here are NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE LAW OR LAW MAKING PROCESS. THEY ARE STARTING OFF WITH MANY WHO DO NOT KNOW WHAT GOES ON IN A SPA. THEY DO NOT KNOW WHAT CONSTITUTES SURGERY JUST AS YOU DO NOT. By the way, side effects of BURNS ARE NOT INTENTIONAL BUT THEY DO HAPPEN. ZEBRA STRIPES ARE VISIBLE SIDE EFFECTS THAT ALTER PIGMENTATION OF THE SKIN. THAT IS NOT THE INTENT OF LASER SURGERY BUT IT HAPPENS AND THE MELANIN PRODUCING CELLS ARE WELL BELOW THE SURFACE., THEREFORE, YOU HAVE MORE VISIBLE PROOF THAT TISSUE IS BEING ALTERED AND IN MANY CASES THIS IS PERMANENT.There is no point in having laser treatments if the result is not permanent, yet, FDA will NOT allow you to advertise "permanent" hair removal after over 15 years of laser experience.

I believe, AT ONE TIME, a member of the cosmology board in Massachusetts also owned a school. She assisted in adding to the laws for cosmeticians that AFTER GETTING A LICENSE they had to WORK AS AN APPRENTICE for an UNREASONABLE length of time before they could be a full fledged cosmetician to open their own shop. THIS GUARANTEED that the new graduates of the school she owned could not open a spa in competition with her. Also provided a CONSTANT FLOW OF WORKERS in the multiple spas she owned. AND HELPED DELAY COMPETITION. THAT IS ANOTHER CONFLICT OF INTEREST. YOU CANNOT ALLOW PEOPLE WHO BENEFIT FROM THE LAWS THEY MAKE TO BE ON THE BOARD THAT MAKES THE LAWS. That is too obvious. USUALLY A LOBBYIST IS PAID TO DO THAT AND THEY PAY LEGISLATORS FOR THEIR SUPPORT (LOOPHOLE). I'LL GET THE EXACT INFORMATION FROM A PERSON WHO WAS DIRECTLY AFFECTED BY THAT RULE. This problem was remedied.

I am not sure if your explanation of employees being covered by a doctor's insurance is correct. However, many spas and salons, and electrology offices do NOT have a medical director. I m retired now but will contact my former insurance agent for the current story in Massachusetts as they insured electrologists and spas all over the country in all states. When I worked in a derms office for 10 years, I had my own insurance. My daughter is an O.R. NURSE IN A MAJOR BOSTON HOSPITAL. She has her own insurance even though the hospital has some insurance for her,and she is ALWAYS working under a doc as it is in the O.R.

PS: YOU USE LSER "TREATMENTS" TO AVOID THE USE OF THE WORD "SURGERY" BUT IT STILL IS LASER SURGERY. The procedures you do were worked out by docs as it IS SURGERY but they can't be bothered with it as it does not produce the stream of income they like to see OR THERE WOULD BE MORE OF THEM.

The FAMOUS MASSACHUSETTS GENERAL HOSPITAL GAVE UP ALL LASER HAIR REMOVAL AS WELL AS OTHER PROCEDURES AND NOBODY EXCEPT BOARD CERTIFIED PLASTIC SURGEONS, DERMATO-SURGEONS, AND OTHER SURGICAL SPECIALTIES ARE ALLOWED TO USE THEM. NO RNs, NPs PAs, ARE ALLOWED TO USE A LASER IN THIS ETHICAL HOSPITAL RESIDENTS CAN USE THEM UNDER THE SUPERVISION OF A BOARD CERTIFIED SURGEON ONLY..YOU STILL INSIST THEY ARE NON-INVASIVE BUT YOU ARE WRONG...IF YOU DO A NON-ABLATIVE PROCEDURE THE POTENTIAL SIDE EFFECTS SHOW THAT SOMETHING IS GOING ON BELOW THE SURFACE EVEN F YOU DO NOT WANT THEM..

]]>BetterOffNow comments on Massachusetts Medical Spa Task Force Reportsquarespace:comment:182618-3298543-16907070BetterOffNow2012-02-14T02:52:21Z2012-02-14T02:52:21Z2012-02-14T02:52:21Zleftg-

Laser surgery is surgery using a laser (instead of a scalpel) to cut tissue. An example is LASIK eye surgery. You are confusing Laser Surgery with Laser treatments such as Laser Hair Removal.

x-rays have nothing to do with this discussion as the joules (energy) used in xrays are significantly higher than any laser's joules are. They are two completely different devices.

While you are correct that state laws are different and NJ regulates that an esthetician cannot fire a laser, no esthetician buys insurance in any state. The MD that oversees them does.

MD's are regulated by the medical boards. In the event of an accident, like blindness (can't happen if the patient is wearing protective goggles by the way), that MD would lose their license to practice medicine. Why would any MD jeporadize any patient's health and their own license by having an untrained laser tech firing a laser?

You are mis stating that deaths have been attributed to the Laser Hair Removal. There was was a widely publicized case (it was written up in Cosmopolitan Magazine) about a woman named Shari Berg who died in 2004- but she didn't die from Laser Hair Removal.

Sadly, she died from the numbing cream that she applied in her car on the way to her appointment. It was a highly toxic Lidocaine-Tetracaine combination.

That cream was not made by her MedSpa- it was made by a compounding pharmacy. It was a combination never reviewed -- or approved -- by the FDA. So she died from a drug- not Laser Hair Removal.

Furthermore, laser companies won't sell a laser to a non-MD. You have to have a license # on the purchase order.

While I can't speak for every school, the School I hire Advanced Estheticians from does not have their students train at their location. They send the their patients to be trained on multiple lasers by a Plastic Surgeon.

You can rant and rave all you want, but it is not illegal in my state and many other state's for an advanced esthetician to fire a laser under an MD's license. Because Laser Hair Removal it is NOT medically or legally classified as surgery.

]]>PBH comments on IPL Reviews & Comparisons: Download the Dog & Lemon Guide PDF.squarespace:comment:182618-1027636-16903117PBH2012-02-14T00:43:58Z2012-02-14T00:43:58Z2012-02-14T00:43:58ZI am searching for an IPL machine...portable is fine, or other. I am reading that the ones manufactured here in the states, and in the UK are the best. However, I'm not rich. I can't afford $20k to $50k for a machine. Someone please tell me that there is a decent Chinese machine out there that would be good for starting out...maybe in the $3k to $5k price range. Surely there has to be one or two out of all of them that are decent and EFFECTIVE! They can't all be complete crap, can they? Someone give me some good news, please. lol Thank You!

]]>lefty2g comments on Massachusetts Medical Spa Task Force Reportsquarespace:comment:182618-3298543-16902454lefty2g2012-02-13T22:08:58Z2012-02-13T22:08:58Z2012-02-13T22:08:58ZBetter off now.. You are SO WRONG that I think it is ridiculous or worse (my opinion). If you took the time to check it out you will find YOUR DEFINITION OF SURGERY IS WRONG. The goal of laser therapy is to make PERMANENT CHANGES in FUNCTION( LIKE KILL OR DESTROY ROOT OF HAIR FOLLICLE) and to make significant PERMANENT CHANGES IN APPEARANCE (LIKE REMOVE TATTOOS AND WRINKLES AND MANY MORE PROCEDURES THAT YOU DO).
X-RAYS do not break THE SURFACE OF THE SKIN EITHER but they can KILL patient and technician) Lasers are used in medicine as an instrument for surgical procedures they ALTER the FUNCTION AND /OR APPEARANCE OF THE AREA BEING TREATED. YOU CANNOT CHANGE THE DEFINITION OF A WORD BECAUSE IT SUITS YOU DUE TO THE VESTED INTEREST YOU HAVE as a result of a sales pitch by an other with a vested interest (commission) Your LACK OF KNOWLEDGE ABOUT LASERS IS WHY IT WAS SO EASY TO SELL YOU ON THAT IDEA OF BEING NON-INVASIVE. The facts are, a number of states now INSIST (like NEW JERSEY and more that I can not remember at this time) that if you point a laser at a human (I am not sure if it includes animals too) you better be a MEDICAL PERSON WITH A LICENSE AND TRAINING OR ELSE IT IS ILLEGAL. That means YOU CAN NOT EVEN BUY INSURANCE.

By now you must know insurance companies are ONLY INTERESTED IN MAKING MONEY NOT PAYING IT OUT. they understand risk and will make you pay for it. MORE RISK means MORE PREMIUM. UNTRAINED LASER OPERATORS ARE A HIGH RISK. Figure it out.
The PRESENT WEIRD FDA DEFINITION OF HAIR REMOVAL HAD TO BE WRITTEN BY A GROUP OF LAWYERS WITH THE HELP OF LOBBYISTS FROM THE LASER INDUSTRY. THEY NOW HAVE AN "OVER THE COUNTER VERSION" FOR HOME USE. THEY DO NOT CARE ABOUT THE INDUSTRY OR PATIENTS. THIS IS OBVIOUS BECAUSE THE OTC DEVICE HAS INSTRUCTIONS THAT ARE VIRTUALLY THE SAME AS YOUR "PROFESSIONAL" DEVICE FOR WHICH YOU HAD TO BE TRAINED (OR DID YOU... who did it and where?). Did it ever occur to you that when lasers were released there were IMMEDIATELY, SCHOOLS TO TEACH IT. WHERE DID THOSE OPPORTUNISTS GET THEIR TRAINING? YOU HAVE A CASE OF THE BLIND LEADING THE BLIND. SCHOOLS ARE INTERESTED IN MAKING MONEY.... SO THEY TAUGHT SUBJECTS THAT NOBODY COULD COMPARE THEM WIT5H AS THERE WERE NOBODY TO COMPARE WITH.

That means illiterates, or patients with poor reading comprehension, patients who do not understand ENGLISH (how many languages do you want them to print the instructions in?) AND OTHERS WHO ARE JUST PLAIN STUPID (and there are many) CAN BUY THE DEVICE AND GET INTO SERIOUS TROUBLE. BLINDNESS IS ONLY ONE OF THEM.
(You know it only takes a split second for a single flash). Here on the net... FDA lists side effects of lasers. 2 deaths THAT THEY KNOW ABOUT, seizures, coma, cardiac arrhythmias, 1st 2nd and 3rd degree burns, hyperplastic scars, pigment changes (like zebra stripes) IS THAT ENOUGH? YOU KEEP REPEATING STUFF YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT. YOU MAY NOT LIKE IT BUT THAT'S THE TRUTH. I worked in a dermatologists office while he was there. He checked each patient before and after each visit and made the laser settings himself. THIS STUFF IS VERY SERIOUS.
There is an expression used in medical schools....see one ...do one...teach one.IF YOU BELIEVE THAT YOU CAN BE A DOC IN AN HOUR BY JUST WATCHING A PROCEDURE. THERE ARE MANY LASERS ON THE MARKET. YOU CAN BUY ONE THAT FITS A PARTICULAR NEED AND BUY A SECOND ONE FOR ANOTHER INDICATION. SCHOOLS DO NOT HAVE THE MONEY TO BUY A FEW LASERS...YET YOU NEED EXPERIENCE ON A FEW DIFFERENT ONE FOR CERTAIN PROCEDURES. YOU ARE DOING SURGERY AND YOU ARE VERY STUBBORN.

]]>lefty2g comments on Massachusetts Medical Spa Task Force Reportsquarespace:comment:182618-3298543-16902446lefty2g2012-02-13T22:07:25Z2012-02-13T22:07:25Z2012-02-13T22:07:25ZBetter off now.. You are SO WRONG that I think it is ridiculous or worse (my opinion). If you took the time to check it out you will find YOUR DEFINITION OF SURGERY IS WRONG. The goal of laser therapy is to make PERMANENT CHANGES in FUNCTION( LIKE KILL OR DESTROY ROOT OF HAIR FOLLICLE) and to make significant PERMANENT CHANGES IN APPEARANCE (LIKE REMOVE TATTOOS AND WRINKLES AND MANY MORE PROCEDURES THAT YOU DO).
X-RAYS do not break THE SURFACE OF THE SKIN EITHER but they can KILL patient and technician) Lasers are used in medicine as an instrument for surgical procedures they ALTER the FUNCTION AND /OR APPEARANCE OF THE AREA BEING TREATED. YOU CANNOT CHANGE THE DEFINITION OF A WORD BECAUSE IT SUITS YOU DUE TO THE VESTED INTEREST YOU HAVE as a result of a sales pitch by an other with a vested interest (commission) Your LACK OF KNOWLEDGE ABOUT LASERS IS WHY IT WAS SO EASY TO SELL YOU ON THAT IDEA OF BEING NON-INVASIVE. The facts are, a number of states now INSIST (like NEW JERSEY and more that I can not remember at this time) that if you point a laser at a human (I am not sure if it includes animals too) you better be a MEDICAL PERSON WITH A LICENSE AND TRAINING OR ELSE IT IS ILLEGAL. That means YOU CAN NOT EVEN BUY INSURANCE.

By now you must know insurance companies are ONLY INTERESTED IN MAKING MONEY NOT PAYING IT OUT. they understand risk and will make you pay for it. MORE RISK means MORE PREMIUM. UNTRAINED LASER OPERATORS ARE A HIGH RISK. Figure it out.
The PRESENT WEIRD FDA DEFINITION OF HAIR REMOVAL HAD TO BE WRITTEN BY A GROUP OF LAWYERS WITH THE HELP OF LOBBYISTS FROM THE LASER INDUSTRY. THEY NOW HAVE AN "OVER THE COUNTER VERSION" FOR HOME USE. THEY DO NOT CARE ABOUT THE INDUSTRY OR PATIENTS. THIS IS OBVIOUS BECAUSE THE OTC DEVICE HAS INSTRUCTIONS THAT ARE VIRTUALLY THE SAME AS YOUR "PROFESSIONAL" DEVICE FOR WHICH YOU HAD TO BE TRAINED (OR DID YOU... who did it and where?). Did it ever occur to you that when lasers were released there were IMMEDIATELY, SCHOOLS TO TEACH IT. WHERE DID THOSE OPPORTUNISTS GET THEIR TRAINING? YOU HAVE A CASE OF THE BLIND LEADING THE BLIND. SCHOOLS ARE INTERESTED IN MAKING MONEY.... SO THEY TAUGHT SUBJECTS THAT NOBODY COULD COMPARE THEM WIT5H AS THERE WERE NOBODY TO COMPARE WITH.

That means illiterates, or patients with poor reading comprehension, patients who do not understand ENGLISH (how many languages do you want them to print the instructions in?) AND OTHERS WHO ARE JUST PLAIN STUPID (and there are many) CAN BUY THE DEVICE AND GET INTO SERIOUS TROUBLE. BLINDNESS IS ONLY ONE OF THEM.
(You know it only takes a split second for a single flash). Here on the net... FDA lists side effects of lasers. 2 deaths THAT THEY KNOW ABOUT, seizures, coma, cardiac arrhythmias, 1st 2nd and 3rd degree burns, hyperplastic scars, pigment changes (like zebra stripes) IS THAT ENOUGH? YOU KEEP REPEATING STUFF YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT. YOU MAY NOT LIKE IT BUT THAT'S THE TRUTH. I worked in a dermatologists office while he was there. He checked each patient before and after each visit and made the laser settings himself. THIS STUFF IS VERY SERIOUS.
There is an expression used in medical schools....see one ...do one...teach one.IF YOU BELIEVE THAT YOU CAN BE A DOC IN AN HOUR BY JUST WATCHING A PROCEDURE. THERE ARE MANY LASERS ON THE MARKET. YOU CAN BUY ONE THAT FITS A PARTICULAR NEED AND BUY A SECOND ONE FOR ANOTHER INDICATION. SCHOOLS DO NOT HAVE THE MONEY TO BUY A FEW LASERS...YET YOU NEED EXPERIENCE ON A FEW DIFFERENT ONE FOR CERTAIN PROCEDURES. YOU ARE DOING SURGERY AND YOU ARE VERY STUBBORN.

]]>lefty2g comments on Massachusetts Medical Spa Task Force Reportsquarespace:comment:182618-3298543-16902427lefty2g2012-02-13T22:03:43Z2012-02-13T22:03:43Z2012-02-13T22:03:43ZBetter off now.. You are SO WRONG that I think it is ridiculous or worse (my opinion). If you took the time to check it out you will find YOUR DEFINITION OF SURGERY IS WRONG. The goal of laser therapy is to make PERMANENT CHANGES in FUNCTION( LIKE KILL OR DESTROY ROOT OF HAIR FOLLICLE) and to make significant PERMANENT CHANGES IN APPEARANCE (LIKE REMOVE TATTOOS AND WRINKLES AND MANY MORE PROCEDURES THAT YOU DO).
X-RAYS do not break THE SURFACE OF THE SKIN EITHER but they can KILL patient and technician) Lasers are used in medicine as an instrument for surgical procedures they ALTER the FUNCTION AND /OR APPEARANCE OF THE AREA BEING TREATED. YOU CANNOT CHANGE THE DEFINITION OF A WORD BECAUSE IT SUITS YOU DUE TO THE VESTED INTEREST YOU HAVE as a result of a sales pitch by an other with a vested interest (commission) Your LACK OF KNOWLEDGE ABOUT LASERS IS WHY IT WAS SO EASY TO SELL YOU ON THAT IDEA OF BEING NON-INVASIVE. The facts are, a number of states now INSIST (like NEW JERSEY and more that I can not remember at this time) that if you point a laser at a human (I am not sure if it includes animals too) you better be a MEDICAL PERSON WITH A LICENSE AND TRAINING OR ELSE IT IS ILLEGAL. That means YOU CAN NOT EVEN BUY INSURANCE.

By now you must know insurance companies are ONLY INTERESTED IN MAKING MONEY NOT PAYING IT OUT. they understand risk and will make you pay for it. MORE RISK means MORE PREMIUM. UNTRAINED LASER OPERATORS ARE A HIGH RISK. Figure it out.
The PRESENT WEIRD FDA DEFINITION OF HAIR REMOVAL HAD TO BE WRITTEN BY A GROUP OF LAWYERS WITH THE HELP OF LOBBYISTS FROM THE LASER INDUSTRY. THEY NOW HAVE AN "OVER THE COUNTER VERSION" FOR HOME USE. THEY DO NOT CARE ABOUT THE INDUSTRY OR PATIENTS. THIS IS OBVIOUS BECAUSE THE OTC DEVICE HAS INSTRUCTIONS THAT ARE VIRTUALLY THE SAME AS YOUR "PROFESSIONAL" DEVICE FOR WHICH YOU HAD TO BE TRAINED (OR DID YOU... who did it and where?). Did it ever occur to you that when lasers were released there were IMMEDIATELY, SCHOOLS TO TEACH IT. WHERE DID THOSE OPPORTUNISTS GET THEIR TRAINING? YOU HAVE A CASE OF THE BLIND LEADING THE BLIND. SCHOOLS ARE INTERESTED IN MAKING MONEY.... SO THEY TAUGHT SUBJECTS THAT NOBODY COULD COMPARE THEM WIT5H AS THERE WERE NOBODY TO COMPARE WITH.

That means illiterates, or patients with poor reading comprehension, patients who do not understand ENGLISH (how many languages do you want them to print the instructions in?) AND OTHERS WHO ARE JUST PLAIN STUPID (and there are many) CAN BUY THE DEVICE AND GET INTO SERIOUS TROUBLE. BLINDNESS IS ONLY ONE OF THEM.
(You know it only takes a split second for a single flash). Here on the net... FDA lists side effects of lasers. 2 deaths THAT THEY KNOW ABOUT, seizures, coma, cardiac arrhythmias, 1st 2nd and 3rd degree burns, hyperplastic scars, pigment changes (like zebra stripes) IS THAT ENOUGH? YOU KEEP REPEATING STUFF YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT. YOU MAY NOT LIKE IT BUT THAT'S THE TRUTH. I worked in a dermatologists office while he was there. He checked each patient before and after each visit and made the laser settings himself. THIS STUFF IS VERY SERIOUS.
There is an expression used in medical schools....see one ...do one...teach one.IF YOU BELIEVE THAT YOU CAN BE A DOC IN AN HOUR BY JUST WATCHING A PROCEDURE. THERE ARE MANY LASERS ON THE MARKET. YOU CAN BUY ONE THAT FITS A PARTICULAR NEED AND BUY A SECOND ONE FOR ANOTHER INDICATION. SCHOOLS DO NOT HAVE THE MONEY TO BUY A FEW LASERS...YET YOU NEED EXPERIENCE ON A FEW DIFFERENT ONE FOR CERTAIN PROCEDURES. YOU ARE DOING SURGERY AND YOU ARE VERY STUBBORN.

]]>BetterOffNow comments on Portrait Plasma Skin Regeneration: The power of high powered wrinkle gas.squarespace:comment:182618-1027205-16898431BetterOffNow2012-02-13T14:46:31Z2012-02-13T14:46:31Z2012-02-13T14:46:31ZLeftg-
You have stated that you are a retired Electrologist. So are you referring to Electrology when you state that "We, as a profession, treat all side effects in a cavalier manner."? Surely you aren't stating that you are a member of the Medical profession as an Electrologist?

BTW-your information is incorrect. Microdermabrasions and Chemical peels are commonly marketed as "lunchtime peels". They are some of the most minimally invasive treatments as only very top layers of the skin are involved. The only possible side effects can be more than normal dehydrated skin. There's nothing cavalier about that statement.

]]>BetterOffNow comments on Massachusetts Medical Spa Task Force Reportsquarespace:comment:182618-3298543-16898257BetterOffNow2012-02-13T14:00:57Z2012-02-13T14:00:57Z2012-02-13T14:00:57Zleftyg-

Your information is incorect.

The Massachusetts Medical Spa Task Force members consist of professionals from the Medical board, the Nursing Board, and the Cosmetology Board plus MA politicians specifically to provide a comprehensive insight into making these recommendations so "Those making the "NEW" laws know" MUCH about each others' fields, therefore, there should be NO flaws in the law.

MA Medical Spa Task Force Members

Boards:

Nancy Achin Audesse, Board of Registration in Medicine
Gino Chisari, RN, Board of Registration in Nursing
Barbara Kellman, JD, Board of Registration in Nursing
Kathe Mullally, JD, Board of Cosmetology
Catherine Hinds, Board of Cosmetology

Legislature:

Kevin Conlon (on behalf of Senator Joan Menard)
Jennifer Infurna, Representative Koutoujian staff

Appointees:

Stephanie Cogliano, RE
Jeffrey Dover, MD
Faye Marie Jenkins, RN
Karen McKoy, MD
Dianne Quibell, MD
Winifred Nee Tobin, Consumer
Jagruti Patel, MD

Board Staff

Russ Aims, Board of Registration in Medicine
Brenda Beaton, JD, Board of Registration in Medicine
Fallon Onufrak, Board of Registration in Medicine

The only MA school an esthetician can pursue an "Advanced Esthetician" course- 1200 hrs, is at The Catherine Hinds Institute. The founder sits on the board of Cosmetology as well as on the task Force.

Straight off the school's website:

"In January 2008 the Accrediting Commission of Career Schools and Colleges (ACCSC) renewed the accreditation of the Catherine Hinds Institute of Esthetics for an additional five (5) year term. The ACCSC is recognized by the U.S. Department of Education as a national accrediting agency for private, postsecondary institutions that offer occupational vocational programs. The Catherine Hinds Institute of Esthetics has been recognized by ACCSC as a 2008-2009 School of Excellence and as a 2003 School of Distinction."

So this is an accredited school with instructors from every level of study- Cosmetology, Nursing and MD's.

No malpractice Insurance is necessary for a laser tech regardless of their level of study because they are overseen by an MD who carries the malpractice.

And leftg? please, PLEASE, for the love of all thing holy, STOP referring to laser treatments as "laser surgery". Again, all laser treatments are non-ablative, and most are non-invasive. You know- the opposite of surgery.

]]>Angie comments on Thermage tackes it's safety reputation among physicians.squarespace:comment:182618-1049783-16897145Angie2012-02-13T07:05:32Z2012-02-13T07:05:32Z2012-02-13T07:05:32ZI had thermage done at skin spectrum in tucson Az. about 10 days ago. I dont see any results. what i do see is that my skin is very shiny, now i think is because they gave me Retin-a samples to use. and that is causing the shine, that is at its best right after i wash my face. It looks nice, but i still think it has nothing to do with thermage. when I went to "SKIN SPECTRUM" it took me by surprise that they did'nt have any before and after pictures of thermage patients. the tech said it was becuase it was hard to have patients agree on taking photos in such a small town. which now makes me wonder... But they do agree to take pictures for other procedures??? MMM... Well I am still waiting on the results. but it just kills me to see the reviews and think that i have been scamed, they are charging 1,800 for 900 pulses. she went over and over the parts of my face that bother me the most.. but really i don't see anything at all. Do you think i can expect a result later..or am i supposed have seen some sort of result by now? Has aynyone had GOOD results with thermage????? anybody?? I would love to hear from someone REAL.. not doctors or techs.. but a real patient with a succes story

]]>lefty2g comments on Massachusetts Medical Spa Task Force Reportsquarespace:comment:182618-3298543-16848404lefty2g2012-02-12T17:43:36Z2012-02-12T17:43:36Z2012-02-12T17:43:36ZWho is going to teach these subjects? Where did they get their training? By who? How many hours of hands-on instruction will be required? What are the MINIMAL requirements for students to be considered as beginning student (High school diploma or 2 years Cpmmunity College DEGREE). What are the requirements to be a teacher of these subjects? Should teacher be required to have a teaching license. How many hours of training on at least 2 different types of lasers? What exact procedures can they do>? All lasers are for laser surgery who is allowed to perform what on who?

What about current people in the spas, salons, electrology fields? Will the be required to take some courses to catch up with new students? What are requirements to move from class 1 to class 2 or 3 license?

What are the requirement to open a school? Total number of students permitted based on number of teachers?
What subjects must be included such as Biology of skin, infection and its treatment, side effects of lasers, when NOT TO USE A LASER, effects of aging on skin, types of medication to be used on skin, Malpractice Insurance required for treating clients (mandatory or NO LICENSE).

THIS IS ONLY THE BEGINNING. Those making the "NEW" laws know little about each others' fields, therefore, there will be many flaws in the law.

]]>lefty2g comments on Portrait Plasma Skin Regeneration: The power of high powered wrinkle gas.squarespace:comment:182618-1027205-16848298lefty2g2012-02-12T16:58:54Z2012-02-12T16:58:54Z2012-02-12T16:58:54ZI've seen docs on TV and ads that claim "down time" is only a day or two. That is nonsense and we all know it. "Lunchtime peel and go back to work." We've all heard that. We, as a profession, treat all side effects in a cavalier manner. The patient does not see it the way we do. There are some of us who will say anything to get a client and toss off side effets as though they were INSIGNIFICANT. NOT TRUE. TELL IT AS IT IS and keep the client from spreading stories that get blown out of proportion.

]]>lefty2g comments on Portrait Plasma Skin Regeneration: The power of high powered wrinkle gas.squarespace:comment:182618-1027205-16848276lefty2g2012-02-12T16:48:04Z2012-02-12T16:48:04Z2012-02-12T16:48:04ZIt is very common for clients to assume they will look better than before as that is what you are selling. Not all procedures end up as well as the client expects. REMEMBER... YOU DO NOT SEE HER AS SHE SEES HERSELF. A 35 year old gal will not look liker a 16 year old chick. Baby fat helps keep the skin tight, however, that goes away and the skin loses its tight appearance. The skin stretches to cover the area but the elasticity is also eliminated with age, therefore, the skin that covered a plumper face is now stretched to fit the face and will NOT rerturn to the original shape. That is called AGING. Loss of elasticity is caused by constant exposure to sun, chemicals and genetics. Parts of the skin that are not exposed to sun always look better no matter what age.

Any young woman who is looking to have a wrinkle or two removed is looking at herself in the mirror for too long and too close. She is going to give you trouble. DO NOT TREAT HER FOR YOU OWN PROTECTION.

]]>Bluewiskie comments on Portrait Plasma Skin Regeneration: The power of high powered wrinkle gas.squarespace:comment:182618-1027205-16847351Bluewiskie2012-02-12T07:06:04Z2012-02-12T07:06:04Z2012-02-12T07:06:04ZI'm not sure if this is still an active thread... If so ism curious as to the main question of breakouts after PSR treatment. I had my procedure 15 days ago. My skin has all peeled correctly and is still slightly pink. My face does get very heated/flushed now and I am getting a number of breakouts (red) around my chin/cheeks. My doc has stated to no longer use the aquaphor and I have purchased the ski medica TNS serum and moisturizer, which I started today.
I use cetaphil cleanser and sun screen. In anyones experince Will the breakouts continue? As well as the redness flushing?
(Latin, brunette fair skin - skin tends to get red then tan but lose tan in about 5 days).
I appreciate everyone sharing their information and especially the Drs time!
BW

]]>El Wadey comments on Titan vs. Fraxel vs. Co2 Laser Ablation vs. Erbiumsquarespace:comment:182618-1040269-16836454El Wadey2012-02-11T04:34:53Z2012-02-11T04:34:53Z2012-02-11T04:34:53ZAnyone know anything about a product called Laserlite TX? I'm looking around to get some treatments done and want to weigh the options.

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