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Thursday
Jun142007

Electrologists in Florida can perform laser hair removal?

WildWildWest.jpgThis kind of underground 'you can do this' stuff pops up regularly regarding laser hair removal. Who can do it? Who can't?

 
Here's a comment that was made that, if you just read it, would lead you to believe that Electrologists in Florida can perform laser hair removal.

Here's the comment and the note I left on it.

From adrisen: "In the State of Florida one needs to be an Electrologist before they can do laser hair removal.  I contacted them becasue I am moving here in 15 months. Thank you for the information on the Harmoney.  There is another unit that I am looking into and might ask about.  Thanks everyone."

(NOTE: I've decided to leave this comment up although it's incorrect. In every state in the US, laser hair removal is considered and regulated as a medical treatment and must be performed under medical supervision at the least. Electrologists on their own, may not perform laser hair removal any more than Jane Doe on the street. There are no exceptions and every state is the same with this basic premise.)

Now if you're an electrologist, don't get out your powered knitting needle and come looking for me. Call us crazy but the US regulates medical treatments.

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Reader Comments (15)

Hi Jeff. I'm a CME (Certified Medical Electrologist) and owner of a Laser Hair Removal business in Florida. I understand why adrisen has set you off ( no acknowledgment that LHR is the practice of medicine, or that she is required to have direct medical supervision, for starters). However, in Florida, under specific requirements set out in Rule 64B8-56.002 Equipment and Devices: Protocols for Lasers and Light-Based Devices, Electrologists are permitted to perform LHR, under direct medical supervision. I comply with the letter of the law in every way, so if I can answer any questions, feel free to ask.

08.8 | Unregistered CommenterLasergal

Speaking as a Florida MD, my understanding of current regulations here is that laser hair removal may be done by an MD, a DO, a nurse practitioner (under protocol) or Physician's Assistant (with appropriate supervisory physician) or a Certified Medical Electrologist who has taken the State's additional mandated training in laser hair removal. The Electrologist may then use a laser or IPL device for hair removal.

I hope that clarifies things.

08.8 | Unregistered CommenterTF

Hi Jeff. I'm a CME (Certified Medical Electrologist) and owner of a Laser Hair Removal business in Florida. I understand why adrisen has set you off ( no acknowledgment that LHR is the practice of medicine, or that she is required to have direct medical supervision, for starters). However, in Florida, under specific requirements set out in Rule 64B8-56.002 Equipment and Devices: Protocols for Lasers and Light-Based Devices, Electrologists are permitted to perform LHR, under direct medical supervision. I comply with the letter of the law in every way, so if I can answer any questions, feel free to ask.

10.16 | Unregistered Commenterfilm

I would like to talk to laser-gal. I am interested in starting a laser hair business. I live in Florida and want to learn about what certifications I neet etc to start this type of business. If I take a 40-80 hour laser course Am I certified under medical supervision- or would I actually need to get a nursing, electrologist, aestetician, or physican assistant degree.
Farah

12.22 | Unregistered Commenterfarah28

farah28

You need a Florida accredited electrologist course, pass national exam and work under direct supervision of MD, DO, PA, NP (they all lead back to physician). This gives you the legal aspect under Florida statute to do so.

Word to the wise (farah). LHR has lost clout. The fees are about 40% of what they were 3 years ago. There were so many LHR centers opening up they canabalized themselves. Most went out of business within 1-2 years. If you open one now you have to compete with the ones trying to pay the lease to make it one more month. Please believe me it is a straight road to failure. I have seen it over and over again. You will be lucky to make enough to pay for medical supervision let alone the rest of the overhead. Month after month you will lose money. I am not trying to discourage you from opening a business and being your own boss but this has been played out and has almost no chance of success.

12.23 | Unregistered CommenterFlorida PA

Hello, I am a Florida Certified Medical Electrologist and work for a medical spa doing Laser Hair Removal with laser and light based devices. Lately I have heard that other medical spas here in Florida are having Medical Electrologists and Aestheticians do Photo Facials with IPL, Fraxel treatments and other Laser treatments, but mainly Photo Facials. What is your thought on that? I thought Medical Electrologists in Florida were only allowed by law to practice Laser Hair Removal.
Thank you in advance for your advice...

Can Aestheticians do Photo Facials in Florida with IPL devices?

Hello,

I am was wondering is it true that the electrolysis might leave marks on the person skin? and how much does it cost if any body knows by any chance, also the laser does it remove all the hair or it just reduces the hair growth. as I read in
The Secrets of Beauty and Hair removal revealed it says that the laser is not a permanent solution

thank you

09.15 | Unregistered CommenterLinda

Hello... I am doing the electrology course, and was offered the 30 Hr. cont. edu class for laser hair removal.
I was under the impression that you had to take the course by law to practice LHR, but was told by a friend who manages a laser spa that infact I DO NOT.

Can someone please specify what I need exactly by law to get hired as a LHR tech.!!!!!

PS. I am a licensed esthetician, soon to be licensed electrologist, and will complete the CCE, CME, and National exams.

Why not just go ahead and do it? The more knowledge and experience you have the more marketable you are.

01.11 | Unregistered CommenterLH

I recently visited a Plastic Surgeon office in Florida and the Certified Electrolysis was not only performing laser hair removal, but brown spot treatments all over the body and vien treatment. Is this legal? Is she stepping over her boundaries? Can someone let me know?

05.1 | Unregistered CommenterBella

Bella,

The Florida law allows the use of laser and light based devices for hair removal by electrologists under direct supervision, but not for the treatment of any other conditions. This is where the Florida law is getting abused. The same devices are being used by the electrologist for hyperpigmentation and photofacials despite the fact that it is illegal. Additionally, the law states there is to be direct supervision by a physician, i.e. physician on site. Many of the electrologists are performing LHR without physicans on site. Then they are performing photofacials and treating hyperpigmentation without physicians on site. Nobody is enforcing the law.

Under the FL law, who is legally allowed to perform photofacials? (photorejuvination)

thank you!

03.20 | Unregistered CommenterTabi

It is interesting to see so many who do not even know what is legal for them to do but they keep on doing it. LOOK IT UP. Ask a lawyer or pay him later in court. What you have to understand is.... FEDERAL L:AW AND REGULATION supercede ALL STATE LAWS. FDA HAS SAID FOR YEARS.....LASERS ARE PRESCRIPTION DEVICES THAT CAN ONLY BE SOLD TO AND USED BY THOSE WHO ARE LICENSED TO USE THEM IN THE STATE WHERE THEY ARE IN PRACTICE.

ALL MDs do not need a second license because they are already licensed to practice medicine. If a doc uses a laser without any laser training ... he is a STUPID DOC. His hospitals will not allow him do anything he is not trained for. It is expected, as a matter of medical ethics that he only does procedures he is PROPERLY trained for. However, whatever he does in his office is his responsibility. and nobody knows what goes on in the privacy of his office. If he has a side effect or bad outcome of any procedure he is apt to get sued. IF he does not have the training with that gadjet...OOPS malpractice.. A poor outcome is not malpractice unless you can prove NEGLIGENCE. That is a tough one. You may have been asleep so you could not see what was done or who did it. Work done by an "assistant" is OK IF THE DOC WAS THERE TO SUPERVISE. Critical supervision is part of training. A SUPERVISOR CAN NOT SUPERVISE or CRITICIZE UNLESS THEY ARE STANDING RIGHT THERE. Next door or a telephone call away is a ridiculous interpretation of the rule. You would not want that to be done to you as a patient

03.21 | Unregistered Commenterlefty2g

Can an Medical assistant preform fotofacials under direct supervision of an MD in the state of Florida, after he sends her for training?
I just graduated from nursing school, but I have my MA certification. I got offered a job with a dermatologist, and this is one of the things he wants me to do. And after reading the post, I'm confused.
Please advise where would I find more info about this.

06.18 | Unregistered CommenterJael

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